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Marek Girsch - rumors of his demise continue to spread

Old posting about Marek Girsch & John Nance


Subject: Old posting about Marek Girsch & John Nance
From: cropdustersal@cs.com (Salvador Astucia)
Date: 11/14/04 12:18 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <20041114001852.12288.00000701@mb-m28.news.cs.com>

I found a three-year-old Usenet message about Marek Girsch & John
Nance, written by someone named Jerry Martin (see below).

Mr. Martin claimed to be friends with some police officers and viewed
Girsch and Nance as criminals. Mr. Martin's article appears to be
quite serious, and I believe the information he presented was true.
I too believe Girsch is/was a criminal, but I am unfamiliar with the
name, John Nance, so I therefore have no opinion about him.

There seems to be some confusion as to whether Mr. Girsch is dead
or alive, but as someone raised with Christian values, I have to
state I hope he has ceased to walk among the living. In my opinion,
Marek Girsch was the personification of evil, and anyone who claims
to be his friend, or says he was basically a nice guy is equally Satanic.
The world is a better place without monsters like Girsch, and it would
be better off without those who defend him or call him "friend."

Girsch's Satanic, anti-Christian hatred surfaced when he forged my
identity and launched an attack against me as he had done to many
others in the past, spreading his usual filth and perversion. But unlike
other victims who were stalked by the Satanic Girsch, I responded to
his X-rated comments by quoting the words of Jesus over and over,
particularly lines from the Sermon on the Mount. I did not try to convert
Girsch or engage in a debate, because it was obvious that Satanic
forces controlled his being. I merely quoted the words of Jesus, using
those magnificent words as a shield, and they stopped the Satanic
Girsch dead in his tracks. I could tell from Girsch's reaction that he
had never heard or read the actual words of Jesus, although Mr. Girsch
cursed His name without understanding His teachings. A few months
later, someone started a rumor that Girsch had committed suicide.
At first I thought it was a hoax, but I am beginning to believe it
is true.

It goes against my Christian teachings to say it, but I sincerely
hope Girsch is dead. In my view, his spirit died long ago and he ceased
being human in a spiritual sense. If I am responsible for his alleged
decision to take his own life, or if he was murdered by his handlers
because he had gone over the edge and become an embarrassment,
then I am glad to see that good has triumphed over evil. If I played
a part in that struggle, then I am proud and honored and rejoice
in the outcome. We can only hope Girsch is really dead, and pray
that stories of his demise are not merely a hoax.

If Girsch did in fact commit suicide because he was unable to deal with
the words of Jesus, some might say God struck him down as
punishment for his blasphemy or his wickedness. But I do not believe
God works in that manner. I believe the Christian God is a god of love
and forgiveness, capable of forgiving anyone, even Marek Girsch.
But I also believe Girsch was too arrogant to ask for God's forgiveness.
As I stated before, I believe Girsch was sub-human and Satanic. He had
gone too far away from God to ever ask for His forgiveness. If quoting the
words of Jesus to Girsch caused him to see divine Truth, and he was
unable to reconcile that Truth with his perverted, sick, twisted life, then
he apparently self-destructed or his life was cut short without any help
from God.

Salvador Astucia

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From: Ed Collins (niceguysfinishfirstus@yahoo.com) [aka, Jerry Martin]
Subject: Attn RMB: RE Marek Girsch & John Nance
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: 2001-11-06 17:59:59 PST

I am not one of the regulars here but have been monitoring what's been
happening recently. I am not a law enforcement official or an
Internet trafficker, but I can confirm that this newsgroup is one of
several being monitored for activity. You guys have a serious problem
on your hands here. The two suspects in question both have been
reported to local law enforcement. Both the NYPD and Evanston,
Illinois police have been contacted by several individuals who
specifically named two men, Marek Girsch and John Nance, as suspects.
There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding this, but there isn't
anything to worry about. I would highly recommend not responding to
these two, and if you receive any threats from them to contact local
law enforcement. One of you has contacted Web Police, but in matters
such as these it is best to contact the providers these individuals
post from. If that does not help then you should contact local law
enforcement.

I am personally not a Beatles fan but a friend of mine posts quite
frequently here and since I have friends in the police department, I
said I would do everything I could to help. In conjunction with this
newsgroup, I am also actively involved in alt.hackers and
alt.hackers-malicious as well. I have compiled a list of emails and
message posts sent to me via fax and email that I have given to local
law enforcement agencies. This is not about someone being offended by
another users words or flames. This is a security issue now.

If these two suspects wish to contact me, they can feel free to send
an email to j_martin73@hotmail.com and leave me an email. Or if they
wish to speak with me via telephone, they can send me an e-mail with
their telephone number or request to speak with me and I can give them
my pager number. I am more than willing to talk and listen to what
both men have to say. If any of you have any questions, please email
me at j_martin73@hotmail.com or contact me via AOL Instant Messenger
at JMartin73.

Jerry
 

[end of old message from Jerry Martin]

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