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NetSpooks Dodge the Protocols of Zion

Subject: Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (Fraud or Real?)
From: salvadorwriter@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 6/25/02 11:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020626020513.23425.00000877@mb-fy.news.cs.com>

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/religion_and_politics.htm#Page_283

------
Salvador Astucia, author of "Opium Lords" (416 pages), the book that solved the
JFK murder.

View online at http://www.jfkmontreal.com

or purchase book for $29.00 in USA (includes shipping).

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/order_hardcopy.htm

John McAdams Responds

Subject: Re: Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (Fraud or Real?)
From: john.mcadams@marquette.edu (John McAdams)
Date: 6/29/02 8:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <3d1e759d.8293384@news.newsguy.com>

On 29 Jun 2002 09:33:13 -0700, garyn2000@yahoo.com (Gary Buell) wrote:

> salvadorwriter@cs.com (Salvadorwriter) wrote in message news:<20020626020513.23425.00000877@mb-fy.news.cs.com>...
>> http://www.jfkmontreal.com/religion_and_politics.htm#Page_283
>>
>> ------
>> Salvador Astucia, author of "Opium Lords" (416 pages), the book that solved the
>> JFK murder.
>>
>> View online at http://www.jfkmontreal.com
>>
>> or purchase book for $29.00 in USA (includes shipping).
>>
>> http://www.jfkmontreal.com/order_hardcopy.htm
>
>The Protocols? Jewish control of the Media? The same old tired
>anti-semitism. Salavador, you should be ashamed.

It's rather bizarre that anybody, in 2002, would actually be touting
the PROTOCOLS as any real source of information.

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/protocols/protocols_intro.html

http://skepdic.com/protocols.html

Searching Google for "protocols of the elders of zion" unfortunately
turns up several web sites that accept the work as genuine.

.John

--
Kennedy Assassination Home Page
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
 

Salvador Challenges McAdams to Debate 3 Specific Protocols

 

I (Salvador) issued the challenge three times, but the challenge mysteriously never made it to Usenet. On three occassions, I challenged McAdams to debate the following three protocols, point by point, and how they were used to cover-up the JFK assassination:

I managed to slip the challenge to the Usenet under threads with different titles, but McAdams continues to evade the debate, although Bill Cleere became a surrogate Protocol basher in what ended up being quite comical (although laughter was not his intention).

Fun with the NetSpooks

Subject: Re: Message to newbies: This NG is fake.
From: salvadorwriter@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 7/3/02 4:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020703193712.05303.00001668@mb-mb.news.cs.com>

This is a great example of how corrupt this NG is. I have responded at least
twice to John McAdams where I challenged him to debate three Protocols of Zion.
None of my challenges ever got posted. This indicates two things: Firstly, this
NG is corrupt as hell, and secondly, at least three of the Protocols of Zions
are actively used.

They are as follows:

- Protocol XII, Control of the Press
- Protocol V, Despotism and Modern Progress (how to control public opinion)
- Protocol VII, Worldwide Wars

When will McAdams come out of hiding and respond to the challenge?
 

<attached McAdams posting previously shown>

 

Salvador Astucia

 

Subject: Re: Message to newbies: This NG is fake.
From: salvadorwriter@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 7/4/02 8:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020704115502.16368.00002687@mb-fz.news.cs.com>

Salvador:
>> Where is McAdams?

Bill Cleere:
>SHUT UP, you [....]!
>
>Twelve *years* he's been haunting this newsgroup, and just
>once he gives us a day or two off, maybe long enough for the
>Tylenol to kick in before he comes back, and you have to go
>trying to cast your [....] spells to summon him?
>
>Fool! You think your Nazi runes are proof against the
>UNDEAD?
>
>-- Bill Cleere

Although you detest Mr. McAdams, you appear to agree with him about the
Protocols. Since you don't want him to respond, I challenge YOU to debate the
Protocols in his place. Please give a point by point response to the following
THREE protocols used to cover-up the truth about the JFK assassination:

(They're discussed on pp. 283 - 289.)

- Protocol XII, Control of the Press
- Protocol V, Despotism and Modern Progress (how to control public opinion)
- Protocol VII, Worldwide Wars

Here's the URL:

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/religion_and_politics.htm#Page_283


Salvador Astucia

Subject: Re: Message to newbies: This NG is fake.
From: "Bill Cleere" bcleere@philipkdick.com
Date: 7/4/02 11:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <Ts0V8.1367$x6.1272@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>


"Salvadorwriter" <salvadorwriter@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20020704115502.16368.00002687@mb-fz.news.cs.com...
Salvador:
> >> Where is McAdams?

Bill Cleere:
> >SHUT UP, you [....]!
> >
> >Twelve *years* he's been haunting this newsgroup, and just
> >once he gives us a day or two off, maybe long enough for the
> >Tylenol to kick in before he comes back, and you have to go
> >trying to cast your [....] spells to summon him?
> >
> >Fool! You think your Nazi runes are proof against the
> >UNDEAD?

Salvador:
> Although you detest Mr. McAdams, you appear to agree with him about the
> Protocols. Since you don't want him to respond, I challenge YOU to debate
> the Protocols in his place.

OK. Here's your debate. The Protocols of Zion have been,
for a long time, conclusively established as a police-inspired
forgery. Since you approve of them, you must be a police
provocateur. End of debate.


-- Bill Cleere

"I prefer the pleasure of writing bits of nonsense to that of
wearing an embroidered coat which costs 800 francs." (Stendahl)
 

Subject: Re: Message to newbies: This NG is fake.
From: salvadorwriter@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 7/4/02 8:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020704230100.01521.00002669@mb-cs.news.cs.com>

>"Salvadorwriter" <salvadorwriter@cs.com> wrote in message
>news:20020704115502.16368.00002687@mb-fz.news.cs.com...
Salvador:
>> >> Where is McAdams?

Bill Cleere:
>> >SHUT UP, you [....]!
 

<snipped redundant text>

more B. Cleere:

>OK. Here's your debate. The Protocols of Zion have been,
>for a long time, conclusively established as a police-inspired
>forgery. Since you approve of them, you must be a police
>provocateur. End of debate.

Actually, the debate never began because you deleted the most critical part of
my previous posting. I did not ask to debate the protocols in a general sense.
I specifically requested that you debate the following three and how they were
used to cover-up the JFK assassination:

(They're discussed on pp. 283 - 289.)

- Protocol XII, Control of the Press
- Protocol V, Despotism and Modern Progress (how to control public opinion)
- Protocol VII, Worldwide Wars

Here's the URL:

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/religion_and_politics.htm#Page_283


You guys are terrified of discussing the protocols.


Salvador Astucia

 

Subject: Re: Message to newbies: This NG is fake.
From: bcleere@philipkdick.com (Bill Cleere)
Date: 7/5/02 8:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <95f2d47.0207050723.48dd6685@posting.google.com>

<snipped redundant text>

OK. Here's your debate. The Protocols of Zion, including
XII, V and VII, long ago were proved beyond question to be
a police-inspired forgery. Since you attempt to use these
deliberate forgeries as if they were genuine evidence,
you must be a police provocateur, sent here by McAdams as
part of his ongoing campaign to disrupt this newsgroup.
Therefore there is no point in debating anything with you.
Thus, end of debate.

 

[Bill Cleere]

Subject: Re: Message to newbies: This NG is fake.
From: salvadorwriter@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 7/5/02 4:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020705191720.23420.00002617@mb-fy.news.cs.com>
 


Bill Cleere wrote:
>OK. Here's your debate. <snipped redundant text>

Sorry, your comments are unresponsive to the topic being debated because you
are discussing the Protocols of Zion in a general sense, not in a detailed one
as instructed. This is about the 7th request. Please debate the following three
protocols and discuss how they were or were not used to suppress evidence in
the JFK assassination:

- Protocol XII, Control of the Press
- Protocol V, Despotism and Modern Progress (how to control public opinion)
- Protocol VII, Worldwide Wars

Here's the URL:

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/religion_and_politics.htm#Page_283


------
Salvador Astucia, author of "Opium Lords" (416 pages), the book that solved the
JFK murder.

View online at http://www.jfkmontreal.com

or purchase book for $29.00 in USA (includes shipping).

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/order_hardcopy.htm

 

 

 

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